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Is this subreddit only about Bitcoin Unlimited or are we allowed to post some core things to discuss as well?

Found this quite interesting from 2+2...
It's not just the lack of skill. Also the lack of proper testing and peer reviewing. This isn't a Wordpress plugin, we are talking about a $20 billion network here, it's insane to just merge commits without proper testing/reviewing. Security should be the focus.
Removing the most crucial part of the bitcoin network, the "consensus" part where we all agree on the rules of the network - is a huge security risk itself. "Emergent consensus" actually just means "miners dictate the rules and nodes better be lucky enough to be on their fork".
Nodes setting isn't a vote, it's just a setting on which "fork" you want to end up. So if you set your EB setting to 2MB (because you would like to have 2MB blocks - which is fair!), you can end up being temporarily on the wrong fork. A single miner (even with 0.01% hashrate) can initiate a blockchain split at any moment when he decides to increase his MG setting and mine a block with it. If other miners still have their EB to 1MB, this means that only the EB2 nodes will see confirmations for these transactions. Basically if for example a gambling/poker site has 1-2 conf deposits (which is practically all gambling sites), they risk getting confirmations on transactions that can be still double spent later. While this 2MB MG miner will lose his block reward, he will be able to easily steal all the hot wallets of gambling sites (which is hundreds of coins in total.) Technically orphans happen right now too, but BU makes it a lot easier to do this maliciously.
You could say nodes better just stick with EB1 till the miners will change their blocksize, but then you risk to be on the wrong fork when they actually increase the blocksize (also this emphasize the part where nodes have no vote whatsoever - it's just miners dictating the blocksize.) It gets more tricky when the miners vote isn't even clear. By design, it has no hashrate thresholds or grace periods, which again, is just not safe. It will create multiple forks and without proper replay attack prevention (which they didn't develop), again it's obvious that there will be losses (just like Coinbase/BTC-E lost some ETC.) Personally I think most investors and businesses don't like the idea of having 2 blockchain splits "fighting it out" by speculating on the the market price of each coin. This split is much more contentions than the Ethereum split and will result in much less overall value.
Overall, as a professional security reseacher, I personally just believe the assumption that everyone will be nice and no one will attack the flaws in "emergent consensus" is very naive. It will make 1 till 12 confirmations much less secure (you will need like 13 confirmations to be secure.) And it puts bitcoin in a permanent risky mode where you constantly have to monitor miners and bitcoin splits to figure out which fork is "good".
Additionally, the problem with miners dictating the network rules isn't just miner centralization upon blocksize increase. This change itself is already more centralization. Right now the users and businesses are dictating the network rules by running full nodes. Miners have to follow us to be able to earn money. To give miners (which really is just a handful of mining pool operators!) the power to be the dictators of network rules is insane. Sure, right now they could also change their consensus rules - but no one will follow them - they will be mining a worthless altcoin.
Miners shouldn't be able to dictate the blocksize - because it doesn't just affect them(!) The costs of a (much) higher blocksize is on the users (full nodes.) It also sets a very bad precedent. What if transactions fees will be high in 3 years after halving because the block reward isn't enough? Since miners are the new dictators of the network rules, shall we just let them remove the 21M coin limit and give them a bit more rewards? This sounds ridiculous but make some social attacks by spreading propaganda that this is really needed to "keep the transaction fees low" and they might convince some idiots (just like what is happening now.)
Bitcoin Core's path (which is the technical majority with 100+ developers and used by practically all businesses) is more scientific. It is very clear that we cannot handle all future transactions on-chain without the loss of many nodes and therefor the loss of the most important property of bitcoin "decentralization". Both 1MB and 2MB are absolutely nothing, even 100MB blocks are not that interesting in terms of global transactions (but 100MB would destroy the decentralization of bitcoin right now.) We will need second layers to have REAL scaling, Segwit makes this much easier. The 2MB increase that comes with Segwit is just an additional advantage to have a 2x more transactions throughput - without the risk of a blockchain split that a contentions HF brings with it. Segwit is insanely well tested compared to BU with a testnet for it since 2015.
Segwit has a high 95% threshold because changes shouldn't come easy. The Bitcoin Core developers don't want to be the ones deciding on the network improvements as it is up to the users. Miners will only change it if they see that the community indeed thinks Segwit is good. 95% basically guarantees that there is indeed consensus among the community. IMO it is pretty clear that most businesses and users support Segwit, but it is okay-ish that miners still have doubt. Of course if it's just ends up Ver&Wu blocking Segwit other methods can be considered (I don't think this is the case now.)
Obviously after Segwit, we still need blocksize increases. Since Bitcoin Core is not a company but just a large group of individuals, realistically they cannot fully pledge on future improvements. The idea right now is to have Segwit activated and collect data how the bitcoin network handles the new higher blocksize. For example: if we see that all the nodes still keep running, it's safe to assume the blocksize increase wasn't that bad and a dynamic blocksize increase can be built based on that data.
Segwit and dynamic blocksize HF after that, seems the very obvious way to go. I hope more BU supporters realize this is a more safe and scientific way to improve scalability and the the FUD against Bitcoin Core is mainly based on conspiracy theories.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=51870798&postcount=19708
My notes: I have been on the fence for a few years with this whole debate. I hated the censorship, still regularly visit both subs. Despite this sub being /btc, my honest opinion is that I am slowly leaning towards the direction of core almost primarily due to the quality of the code.
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Poker players want to deposit with bitcoins.

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We should ask Pokerstars to accept Bitcoin!

We should ask Pokerstars to accept Bitcoin! People who live in the States can’t play with real money in Pokerstars. If they were to accept Bitcoin wouldn’t that provide the ability for USA poker players to play with “real money”??? Also, wouldn’t it be an excellent way of promoting Bitcoin, while acting as a source of newcomers to the digital ecosystem?
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Public Service Announcement for those thinking about using Bovada

Any person contemplating using Bovada please advise:
1) It is outdated and your personal information (which is required to signup) is not safe there.
2) your personal information is not safe there. Your info is sold to touts who call you non stop and can actually see your betting history and activity (this is why you get the phone calls shortly after you make a new deposit). I have even gotten stuff in the mail from them. (not cool) I almost had to change my number because the calls wouldn't stop and the guy knew my first and last name. Really creepy and he literally refused to stop calling me.
3) If I DID want to pay for handicapping advice, any logical minded person would see that if Bovada (who is the bookmaker) sells my information to the tout (handicapping "expert"), wouldnt it be in the tout's best interest to sell bad picks so the company they are shaking hands with and paying for this information (bovada) benefits?
4)Lines are horribly shaded
5)Good luck getting a payout check and if you put up with the 2 month long wait to get your check, your bank may reject it and put a hold on your account for "gambling related activities"
I switched to nitro and payouts are instant, just like deposits. no personal info needed. Best of all, anonymous. Haven't tried any other bitcoin betting sites as I am pretty happy with nitro.
Felt the need to share my personal experience. Anybody with anything similar or positive experiences are encouraged to add to the discussion!
edit: see the horror stories on twoplustwo forums
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-pokebodog-bovada-payout-thread-us-players-do-not-post-bank-names-1553/index1093.html
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Live in the U.S. and want to play online? Here are your best options. (For searches: where to play online in America American US united states merge cake minted everleaf bodog accept players).

This question is asked almost daily, so I figured I would write a post that would answer the question well and also appear in the search (hence all of the tags). What follows are the best options available to US players after Black Friday. I am not going to make a firm recommendation one way or the other, as I don't play on all these networks, but I've done my best to provide the essential information after doing a good bit of research. If I got something wrong, please correct me.

General Advice

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Hope this helps and good luck.
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So I had this idea....

Okay so basically poker in the US seems like it's dead for now, but there's a way we could get it going again and it could never be stopped --- bitcoin.
Bitcoin is a distributed p2p currency that can be transferred from person to person with no record whatsoever.
There would need to be an intermediate site that was hosted outside of the united states, but there is absolutely no way they could seize bitcoins (due to the way the mechanism works). Also due to it not being an official foreign currency I'm pretty sure they'd have a hard time prosecuting it.
A second option for the use of bitcoin is to build it into the p2p system that bitcoin already runs on. Basically it would be like when they shut down Napster and everyone when to bittorrent and emule.. Without a centralized server there is noone to arrest, nothing to take down, and no way to stop it.
You can buy bitcoins with paypal, but someone needs to make a site that would track chip counts vs bitcoinsm, etc, etc..
I'm not sure how it would all work exactly, but the REALLY cool part about it is that bitcoins are a VERY finite currency. This means that people that got in the ground floor of this opportunity could get QUITE rich if online poker stars to migrate towards bitcoin. Because bitcoin is a finite currency and theres only so much being generated every day, the price of existing bitcoins would go through the roof as more and more people started to play bitcoin online poker..
Bitcoin is already a pretty established currency..
I'm a programmer by trade and really want to take up this idea because the demise of online poker is going to hurt one of my favorite things to do.
If any other programmres want to join me in this mission, please send me PM or post here with great ideas.. I'm trying folks!
More info:
Bitcoin Main Site
Bitcoin Existing Poker Site (OPEN SOURCE!)
Bitcoin explained in short video
List of sites that accept bitcoin
Recent Time Article about Bitcoin
Let me know what you guys think!
Update:
I've got a team of a few people that have committed to working on it, we've communicated via skype.. will let you know of the results soon.
Does anyone have connections to anyone on twoplustwo or anywhere with more exposure, I don't really post to poker forums much.
New Edit:
Now I need help with a name
name date pokersbestbonus.com 2011-04-20 pokerwaging.com 2011-04-20 cdpokeritaian.com 2011-04-20 cdpokeritaiano.com 2011-04-20 cdpokeritonline.com 2011-04-20 cartelpoker.com 2011-04-20 betthepotpoker.com 2011-04-20 ynabomberpoker.com 2011-04-20 tecnicasdepoker.com 2011-04-20 pokerunchecked.com 2011-04-20 tvstarpoker.com 2011-04-19 thepokerwizards.com 2011-04-19 amaropoker.com 2011-04-19
I've compiled a list of a bunch of domains coming open soon with poker in them.. tell me if you guys spot any you think are good.
http://pastebin.com/KZv32qFf
Edit:
I will be putting together a closed project webpage for this project, if you are interested in getting access as a developer or to track the progess send me an email at [email protected] I'll be putting together a mailing list and project managment through phpCollab in the next 48 hours.
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This is one of those forum threads that will just get better with age.

browsing for 'bitcoin' in the Poker forum Two Plus Two and found this topic posted on 1st April 2011, which asks: 'Bitcoin... Any value to this idea or will it never work?'
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"Luke holds a lot of odd opinions, but I'm in general agreement with his overall thesis....It should be clear to people by now that bitcoin will never scale without removing some of the critical properties that make it valuable today in 2017. "

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The issue you describe- since blocks must be repackaged for non-SegWit nodes, a SegWit node cannot accept a SegWit block from a non-SegWit node.
The poorly propagated block can still reach other 0.12.x- miners who can build upon it due to the low difficulty and difficulty resets, thus causing multiple chains to exist, particularly among pockets of 0.12.x- nodes.
The reorgs happen when either the 0.12.x- nodes hear of the segwit blockchain that is presumably longer because it has the majority hashrate, or when people run bridges which allow 0.12.x- nodes relay blocks to 0.13.0+ nodes.
Not only does SW relegate non-upgraded nodes to SPV only, but it also prevents them from mining and prevents them from participating in relaying blocks with SW nodes.
Blocks are too large right now:Full node percentage is at an all-time low, far under a safe percentage of 85%. If you ask people why they don't run a node, the reason is often tied to the block size.
If you ask people why they don't run a node, the reason is often tied to the block size.
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[Table] IAmA: We made BET RAISE FOLD, a documentary about the boom and bust of online poker in the USA - ASK US ANYTHING!

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Do you think online poker will go through another boom when it is fully reintegrated in the United States? What is the biggest way that most online poker pros have maintained their way of living post Black Friday? Do you have any other docs in the works? I really enjoyed Bet Raise Fold. I think it would be v hard for it to "boom" (like explode out of nowhere like it did in the 2000s) again, but it will surely grow, and I'm optimistic that it will grow to be an even larger industry than before (over the long run, could take a decade or more). like Yoda says, "hard to see, the future is." totally applies to the future of online poker - there are so many known and unknown variables at play at all times.
How much of 2M2MM was staged? It was a very entertaining show to watch.. any chances for another season? Hmm, hard to say. all reality TV is staged to some degree. from what I understand/gleaned from the production team working on the show (they were all vets of the reality TV world, worked on shows like Amazing Race and Ghost Hunters), 2M2MM trended much closer to the documentary side of reality tv than most. that said, I often compare the experience of 2M2MM like being an actor playing myself - and I think everyone who participated would prob agree w that. the plots of each episode were set up in advance (though we'd argue vigorously with the prodco to make sure if anything was "set up for the show" it'd be something we normally might do in real life). the most staged stuff would be like the house wars vs aejones/luckychewy (situation set up for the show), or aspects of the Benyamine match (Erica Schoenberg is at the pool specifically for our scene, it's not a chance encounter), or Dani and Chewy hunting for girls for the Connect 4 Charity episode. the completely real stuff is all the poker action - our bankrolls and emotions on full display for the world!
The Tilt Room was set up for the show, too - maybe my greatest invention all time. smashing watermelons with a sledgehammer is an awesome way to de-tilt (but very wasteful!!! smashing pottery - more responsible way to fill your tilt room, ppl)
Did you guys ever wake up Emil? On 2M2MM, the production team famously had to break down two doors of his (he won the master bedroom and it was so ballin it had two doors he could lock to keep people out) to wake him up for a shoot towards the end of filming.
We did wake him up, and he had a piece of that action - so it was a more pleasant awakening than the times we'd prank wake him by telling him all the pizzerias in NY were on strike or the house was on fire.
Actually, did Viffer ever find out about his pot bet bluffing tell? I heard he went into lockdown and wouldn't come out until he had fixed it :)
Who would be in your team of poker player super heroes and who would their x-men or avengers counter parts be? Maybe best question anyone has ever asked.
Ashton Griffin - Wolverine.
Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - Beast.
Ziigmund - Thor.
Dani Stern - The Incredible Hulk.
Vanessa Selbst - Jean Grey.
Aaron "aejones" Jones - Iron Man.
Jennifer Harman - Storm.
Erik Seidel - Captain America.
Chris Ferguson - Gambit.
Not a superhero but Howard Lederer is totally Kingpin. (actually, Kingpin might have to be Ivey...)
ROSENKRANTZ - Do you still play poker as a main source of income? When you do play do you play online outside of the US or live? Nope - i actually don't play much poker at all, outside of WSOP. i'll play in home games now and then but it's mostly a social thing. was thinking about making an extended trip to Montreal to visit Martin, hear him play music and grind online next year... i miss playing online poker a TON. what's more fun than stacking n00bs with AA.
Check-raising stupid fucking tourists? Stacks and towers of checks I can't even see over!!!
Do you think that you could persuade the Alamo Drafthouse in Denver to have a showing? If these three screenings (Yonkers, Austin, KC) are profitable for them, or I can show them we have a strong group of people in Denver who'd come out, it's a possibility...
Yo Krantz, where is the information on the one in Yonkers? I live in Queens would love to go and show my support. Oh man, thanks for the support - it happened last week though :/
How often do you play live/online (hours per week/month or whatever)? What stakes? Also, you guys toss money around like toilet paper. Send me a couple grand so i can make a tilt/lockdown room and go pro. Thanks, man! If you surf through some of the other posts in this thread you can read some more, but since Black Friday I don't play much poker live or online. If there were legal online poker in my state right now, I'd probably dabble in small and mid stakes and try to build up a bankroll playing NLHE/PLO cash (shorthanded and heads up) and the occasional tournament!
2M2MM was in 2009, 4+ years later and all that toilet paper is more valuable to everybody :)
With your experience in documentary and financing, can you get "I BET YOU" tv series back in production? phil laak craziness needs to be serialized. If I ever run into him, I will plant the seed. should have run 6 seasons and a movie.
Do you think bitcoin will change the future of online gambling? I'm still trying to wrap my head around bitcoin... i have these handy videos bookmarked to watch as soon as i get some free time! Link to www.khanacademy.org
Link to www.youtube.com
Do you see the games remaining as reg-infested and hard as they are now? Is there a point where everything about NLHE is basically known and therefore the skill level of most pros will be capped? Not if the sites figure out how to bring in more casual players - a priority for their businesses as the US market legalizes and the global market matures. Hard to say what the games could look like in 5 years... I think there will be fewer pros/regs. Also think NLHE will always be the most popular game even though basic strategy is pretty well known to anyone who wants to put in the time.
Hi, Jay. Great movie, really enjoyed it. Thanks! My plans are really to throw myself into writing and producing with the same focus and intensity that I gave to poker during my early 20s. I'd like to write and publish some books (fiction, nonfiction, poker, nonpoker), write and produce more movies, TV, games... I'm inspired by artists like Joss Whedon, Ray Bradbury, Hayao Miyazaki, Bill Watterson... entrepreneurs like Tim League, Burnie Burns and Felicia Day and the folks at VHX and Pixar and Valve... Basically, I want to build a career in popular entertainment, telling smart, resonant stories to larger and larger audiences. And I want to work with the best people I can while I do this.
What are your plans for the next 1-5 years? I also plan to win the WSOP Main Event, but that could take 6-7 years because you gotta get lucky!
Are you still friends with the cast from 2M2MM and do you and any of them still rent a house in Vegas for the summer? We are great friends! I actually lived with Emil and Brian in a house this summer while I was out at the WSOP premiering BRF. We worked out a ton (Brian is REALLY into Olympic weightlifting these days) and watched lots of movies. There was a movie theater room in the house and those guys have eclectic wide ranging tastes in film so it was really fun. One of our favorites was this Norwegian crime thrilleblack comedy called Headhunters: Link to www.imdb.com
Also I was one of the many backers on Kickstarter for BRF. How tedious was it putting everyone's name in the credits? Dani, Brian and Emil lived together in Toronto for awhile post Black Friday but now Dani has a serious girlfriend, a dog and a cat and they're all living in different countries (well, Dani and Brian live near each other in Mexico but Emil's in Finland)
As poker players, do you feel like you've lost an appreciation for money? Who do you think is the most overrated poker player nowadays? I definitely lost any conception of the value of the dollar during the height of the online poker boom. Post Black Friday, 3 years later, I feel like I have a much healthier and more reasonable relationship with money. I think any serious poker player has to divorce himself from the value of money in order to risk it with complete and utter disregard for anything but the expected value of the play. If I had to answer the overrated question... I'd say wcrider (sp?) is overrated. Not skill wise - I have no idea how good or bad he is objectively - but I've read a few of his forum posts on 2p2 and he is clearly young with a huge ego, and you just can't be the best in the world with an ego the size of an elephant (though it can give you some huge competitive advantages). But see how subjective a question like this is? For the most part the idea of underrated or overrated players is worthless, variance is a way bigger factor than anyone understands... the only person who can truly and accurately "rate" a poker player's skill is the player themselves!
Will there be any new videos on TheMicros? I so hope so. The major problem for us is the economics... the cost of animating those episodes is pretty big in terms of money and time. The sponsorship model worked great pre-Black Friday, but post Black Friday and the market for an animated poker show is completely different. John and I have thought about Kickstarting it, but I'm not confident we could raise enough money to do it the way we'd want to (if we come back, we want to come back full throttle, with regularly scheduled content and season long storylines... we don't want to just put up an episode or two here or there). There are a few options I've been thinking about, but they're just ideas at this point.
There's a big possibility we'll come back soon with regular comics, though. You can check out some examples of what these would look like on our Facebook page (there's a photo gallery of the ~12 comics we've done so far): Link to www.facebook.com
Hey all, what are your thoughts on regulated poker, putting Delaware politely to one side, is there half a chance of it being successful in New Jersey, without interstate compacts? By successful, I probably mean will we see guy n girls like you in that state playing for a living? Will there be the liquidity to sustain a more than a handful of full timers? I think it will be successful but it will not explode overnight, it will take time and nurturing like any good crop... growing the igaming business in NJ, the companies' priorities are not necessarily directly in line with catering to guys/gals like us who want to play for a living. So I don't think you'll see many full timers playing exclusively on NJ sites. See Joe Tall's post in this thread for more insight into this, it's pretty good!
Probably too late but I'll give it a shot anyway. I tried to/try to study and it felt like pulling teeth. I became interested in applications of game theory for a few months and the challenge of reeducating myself in basic maths was interesting... but even then I didn't feel as energized or excited about thinking about poker as I did when I was able to play and compete consistently. I decided recently that I'd just take a break until I was able to play consistently again (I have been thinking about a trip to NJ or out of the country to grind for a bit, but it's just an idea right now).
Any words of advice here? I'm tired so this is kind of rambly and I'm just talking some of this out loud for the first time, but I hope this helps a bit. Post Black Friday I've done a lot of reevaluating my relationship with poker and the expectations I have of it and it's done a lot to reverse feelings of anger, sadness and frustration at the US situation (and at the game in general).
What was the biggest thing you guys have bet on beside poker? Games of NFL Blitz, trick pool shots, what LuckyChewy thinks the distance from the Earth to the sun is, whether [name redacted] can get those strippers to come ride the inflatable dolphin, oveunder of how long they can ride it for before falling in pool... countless thousands have been won and lost on these diabolical problems.
off, great movie! It was well worth the wait. My question is this, what is the craziest, most extravagant thing you purchased with your poker winnings? Thank you! whitelime reminds me of a night in NYC at a club called Arena (who knows if this place still exists), where we went heads up against NYG running back Brandon Jacobs in a bottle-buying war. the bottles came equipped with sexy bottle babes and sparklers. we lost the bottle war to BJ (in hindsight i think we lost the battle, too - huuuge tab)
I want to first thank you for establishing an amazing training site in DC. It has helped my game immensely. For the questions: would you consider yourself more of a filmmaker or poker player at this point? In a podcast slowhabit noted poker helped his entrepeneurship immensely and vice versa. Do you see any similar parallels b/t poker and film-making? Thanks! I'll always consider myself a poker player, but in terms of profession I suppose I'm trending towards the filmmaker side of the coin. But all of the creative work I do will be influenced by the unique way I see the world - a viewpoint heavily influenced by poker. It's an insanely beautiful game: a complex blend of strategy, tactics and human emotion. Being a poker player isn't a profession to me, it's something I can't help... at this point it's part of the fabric of my identity.
I don't think we would have ended up with a movie this good (or maybe not a movie at all!) if Taylor and I didn't bring our backgrounds in poker and entrepreneurship to bear to make as many +EV decisions as we possibly could over the entirety of the project. In a lot of ways filmmaking is an entrepreneurial pursuit, in a lot of ways producing a movie is like multitabling high stakes online poker. You're juggling tons of variables, managing human relationships, analyzing risk, making high pressure decisions...
I talk a lot about this stuff in this podcast with Jared Tendler: Link to www.mentalgamefish.com
I really enjoyed the movie and showed it to my family. But their reaction across the board was: "But they only portray people who win in the game!". What do you think of this reaction? Isn't portraying mostly the pros or winning player missing a big slice of what online poker is. We were originally interested in finding a losing player... posting what Ryan posted earlier about this: "Yes, we were planning to follow someone exactly like that. However, we found it more challenging than we expected to find a compelling, losing player who was willing to go on camera. For example, I spoke briefly with grimstarr (online poker veterans will know who this is) about appearing in the film, but there were too many complications involved." After Black Friday it became pretty much impossible for us to add another character, winner or loser. We also felt like the downsides of poker had already been given a lot of treatment in the cultural representation of the game... but nothing had been done to authentically show the lives of modern professional poker players during the poker boom. Still, we did have many conversations about the losers, about the pros who are staked, etc... what we should or could convey about that aspect of the game... ultimately we decided we needed to stick to our core characters (especially after Black Friday) and their experiences. We did make an effort to explore the psychological consequences of losing as a professional, and the risks that you take on when you do play this game for a living... hopefully that sequence in the last third of the film can show that even the winners are losers, and they lose often! Basically, a lot of the energy for this project's conception was to showcase what it was like to be an online pro player, and dispel misconceptions that the public has about poker and online poker. To show the injustice done to the industry as a result of the UIGEA... to show what caused the boom... historical events like this, put into context in a digestible way. That was the driving motivation in making the film and selecting Danielle, Tony and Martin - and after Black Friday, their stories were all that mattered to this particular film. Hope this sheds some light on our thinking.
Hey Krantz! Play tons of poker, think about it with a truly open mind and engage in critical discussion of poker with tons of players of all skill levels. Tenacity and fearlessness are your words to live by (and maybe "breathe," for when you're tilting).
What advice would you have for an online player from the us that plays on bovada to move up the stakes. Currently grinding double-up sit n gos and crushing ? I really love this post about training and practice. If you want to move up and become better, work hard and work smart: Link to forumserver.twoplustwo.com
Jay, I asked you on twitter during the months leading up to the release about selling autographed pictures of some online pros in the movie on kickstarter to raise money. You replied saying it was a good idea and you'd look into it. I was thrilled, but become really bummed when I saw that the signed movie poster costs $200. I wish I could afford it, but I just can't. I graduate from university in a week and still don't have a job offer, so this is above my price range. Since you have 18/20 left, is there a chance of a price drop for them in the future? We actually only managed to get about 5-7 signed posters total and ran out! but email me your info at [email protected] and i will see if we can find some way to get you something cool! (i remember your tweets!)
In the home game you had on 2m2mm, did Andrew robl ever tell you what his other card was? He showed you a jack he hit on the river.. He didn't - I tried to get it out of him, but he wouldn't say. based on what I know of him i'm 95% sure it was a good fold (5% he made a sick bluff and is so buddha he doesn't need to brag or show it on TV)
I loved BRF by the way and my dad liked it too. It helped him understand "my world" a little better. You gotta learn the language of filmmaking, and you gotta experiment (in poker terms, you can't just study - you hafta play hands!). So try to make a little short documentary about something (this is what we did - FROM BUSTO TO ROBUSTO ended up being essential practice in learning to make something as big as BRF) and take it all the way through from preproduction to marketing and distribution, even if it's just on the tiniest scale.
I'm sure you learned so much throughout the course of making the film, so if you could go back to give yourself advice from when you just started BRF, what would you say? Thanks! It's awesome to hear about friends/family enjoying the movie. I'm heading out to host this theatrical screening in Austin but I will get back to you on your question tonight. OK, I'm back. I'm glad you love FCH because my first bit of advice is to read the ebook he just released: Link to www.amazon.com
I am curious on roughly how sales are going? How did you choose how to distribute the film. Really enjoyed the film. Direct sales through VHX were great. Not tens of thousands of people but very strong for an independent documentary. The decision to distribute the film through a combination of Kickstarter, VHX and Tugg (skipping film festivals in favor of debuting at the 2013 World Series of Poker) was made mostly as a result of talking to other filmmakers, studying the success of Indie Game: The Movie (Link to www.indiegamethemovie.com and reading Think Outside the Box Office (Link to www.amazon.com)
If we could go back and do it again I don't think we would have done much differently. The biggest change I'd have made to our strategy would have been to organize a ~6 city Tugg tour of the film to build hype before the online release, and to incorporate Kickstarter earlier in the production (it would have been really fun and cathartic to share the ups and downs of the whole production process with backers!)
Just rewatched 2M2MM a few weeks back...LOL at Jay's roller skating penalty stunt. Question about the doc...how did you decide on profiling Dunst, Alexei and Danielle? Who else was a finalist to be featured? Still got those roller skates!
Why does ansky keep knocking me out of ftops!! Pretty sure this stems from his anger issues. see 2M2MM Mach 5 snap call argument for evidence. he HULKS out when he sees your SN and smashes your soul!
Not so much a question as an obvious point. Loved the film, loved being a part of it and helping out. I really don't have anything else. If anyone here hasn't seen the film yet, do so asap. It really is an incredible piece of work. Love you too, bro! and not just because you're also named Jay. it's because the goddamn FORCE IS WITH YOU.
Given that Jay's poker training site, "Deuces Cracked" ( Link to www.deucescracked.co ), actually make Duck merchandise ( Link to img651.imageshack.us ), and your username is PERSIANDUCK i think you guys should form the first poker supergroup and call yourselves "THE MIGHTY DUCKS". Those ducks are collectors items!!!
I assume this question was targeted at Jay or Tony/Danielle/Martin, but the most extravagant thing I ever purchased was an $800 couch. Still had the wrapper on it and everything. Where'd you get $800?
Jay,The Texas Legislator will go back in to session in Jan of 2015. I expect that there will be hearing for both live and online poker. Since your living in the Austin would you be willing to testify at the State Capitol in Austin in front of the Texas State Legislator to help bring poker to Texas. I love comedy but have 0 appetite for politics. I don't believe I could say anything that would be more helpful than what we've said in making Bet Raise Fold, and I don't believe that anything but money will help bring poker to Texas :)
Very tedious, but well well worth it. Thanks so much for supporting the project! Yes, huge thank you for backing us!
Krantz, in a deucescracked video where you commentated with ariel about his match against tie53, bit of a famous hand. Q67hh-Tss, Tie53 check raises a committing size on the turn. we fold Q6. Do you still think this was a close fold with Q6 or do you appreciate now that it was probably wrong. Don't recall the specifics of that hand but I think past Jay/past Ariel were probably right and no one, not even me from the future, would know better than them :)
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Looking to trade/sell my carbon money for a 10% discount

I am trying to sell/trade my carbon poker money. I have $350 that i am trying to get rid of and i am asking for a $315 BOA transfedeposit or the equivalent in bitcoins. I have made numerous trades on two plus two in the player to player transfer thread. You can check me out in there. My screen name on carbon is jcklem, my screen name on twoplustwo is ieatturds.
If anyone is interested in this let me know.
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On the Ethereum HF, Security solutions, Decentralization, and the Titanic/Dao

Not even up to my usually writing as I am not able to concentrate on writing and don't have my usual "tools" but I wanted to get this out, and since I could be somewhat mistaken I am also expecting some feedback. Yet it seems so obvious to me and I had to get this out before I lost the thought:
On the world’s main poker forum, twoplustwo, there is a lot of negative talk by the section’s most prominent and establish member “tomcollins” (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=50347554&postcount=18654) about ethereum and Vitalik. Honestly I hope/wish some knowledgeable players would read a few pages of his posts and debunk some of his BS. (I’m ban on sight on that forum for promoting p2p poker, which doesn’t fall inline with PokerStars/2p2’s marketing agenda).
But there is one sentiment that I wish to back up a little and expand on, and for me is less of a sentiment and quite factual. The Dao security leak, that lead to the hacking should never have taken place, and was a product of irresponsibility on Vitalik’s part and any other leaders involved.
I think its too easy to shrug such an accusation off as well, and that such an attitude is truly a product of having to much power, which is also effectively a product of gaining to much wealth too fast.
I want to use the analogy of the Titanic for my reasoning here although I am not sure how valid it is in regard to factual history. Yet the metaphor will serve its purpose. Specifically I am referring to the lore that suggests that faulty rivets played a major role in the sinking of the Titanic (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/science/15titanic.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)
And this in tandem with a security LEAK that is embedded in what I must feel is a misconception about designing secure systems. I still do not know what the scientifically and academically accepted principles are in this regard, but to me the point I will make is simply fundamental reasoning in regard to security.
The Shapeshift hack that Erik Vorhees claims doesn’t count as a security breach is relevant here, and there was a poster on reddit that claimed to be his head of security that gave what I think is a fatal misunderstanding of what a security solution is. Erik seems to follow these sentiments as well and I cannot help but feel this is the basis for the IN-security that lead to the failure in the design of Shape-shift.
I write this in case I misunderstand Vitalik and ethereum and the Dao, but alas, for all I have read and understand (which I don’t claim to necessarily be all that much) on the subject, I have to feel that Vitalik at best made a massive oversight on his own understanding of security (whereas Voorhees just seems clueless in this regard).
The sentiment I am referring to is that security is about probability. That is to say there are apparently some security experts out there that feel that security is about mitigation and management, so that a certain fault or possible point of failure should be “solved” down to a low probability threshold. The idea would be the security expert saying “well its really unlikely someone would do that”, or “its really unlikely someone would figure that out” etc.
I myself would fire such an “expert” immediately and never trust them after they claimed to be so. This is not security and this is not what Satoshi did in regard to creating the world’s most secure system.
Probability is certainly a factor, but mitigation and management I dare say are not,. They are certainly not an ends or a solution for security.
Security rather is about changing the paradigm of the solution so that the system, or a modulated component of it, is EFFECTIVELY secure. There is no blanket way to implement this, but it CAN be well understood.
We turn to the Titanic as our example of what is mitigated and managed risk, in regard to the rivets that are allegedly one of the significant points of failure in the system (ship) that ultimately caused its demise.
You can’t really claim the ship is secure vs sinking when, for example, the entire ship’s buoyancy rests on the integrity of a single rivet provider. Now I won’t exactly provide a solution here, but we might consider different forms of stringent tests of the rivets over time, however we also might consider different otherwise reputable rivet manufacturers that could each compete to provide quality rivets (we can note you wouldn’t have rivet provider A do the bow of the ship vs provider B doing the stern as this would in itself be another leak. Rather we might interchange A rivets with B rivets in offsetting patterns throughout the entire ship etc.).
This is a pretty crucial point I think to make in regard to the “Titanic”, and something I guess I’m finding out that a lot of security experts don’t seem to understand.
There is a suggestion here, and I can’t really explain it well enough in this article, that security is not a static solution, but rather it must be a philosophy that is continuously spread and adopted through out an entire system or design solution. This seems to put a sort of time vector on real security solutions that I won’t go into further here.
Furthermore and in conjunction with the rivet example we need to understand that we can EFFECTIVELY solve security issues by not necessarily solving a problem in the given paradigm.
For example we might have a safe in which we cannot stop a thief from locating and attempt to “pick”. Perhaps we do not have a lock that is secure enough to stop this thief from opening. We might though have access to another safe, twice the size, yet with the same lock. A possible solution, or partial solution, could be to put the first safe INSIDE the second. We can note that eventually, basically after twice the time (the thief must pick both locks now) the thief WILL in fact get to the bounty.
But now we have altered the solution and the problem slightly, because the thief can now be put on a time constraint. That is to say if we can change the external factors so that the thief MUST crack the locks for the bounty in a certain time period, then we can keep adding more safes so that the thief can’t crack the multiple safe security solution before the time period expires.
This provides an EFFECTIVE solution.
Another simple solution would be, if the thief needs to expend a certain amount of economic power in order to crack the security of a system. Then, if the magnitude of economic power that is needed EXCEEDS the bounty the thief is going after, you have another effective solution. (see bitcoin for an implementation of this)
These are the ways you begin to provide TRUE security solutions that are ultimately useful and effective.
I don’t see this with the Dao and in fact imo this is where the Dao failed. I also even go so far as to suggest that Vitalik knows this all too well and even better than me. But I cannot understand why the value in the Dao was not compartmentalized, with time-constrained locks, and with a security system that disincentivizes breaching it.
I admit, and this is probably obvious from my complaint here, I don’t really understand the dao, but surely there is no reason to have so much equity in the same basket breachable by a single entity/group (iceberg!).
To me this is why there were accusations of it being an inside job and for all I could care/see I might suggest that someone or some party, somewhat from the inside, DID indeed set up the job before hand.
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Security solutions, Decentralization, and the Titanic/Dao

Not even up to my usually writing as I am not able to concentrate on writing and don't have my usual "tools" but I wanted to get this out, and since I could be somewhat mistaken I am also expecting some feedback. Yet it seems so obvious to me and I had to get this out before I lost the thought:
On the world’s main poker forum, twoplustwo, there is a lot of negative talk by the section’s most prominent and establish member “tomcollins” (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=50347554&postcount=18654) about ethereum and Vitalik. Honestly I hope/wish some knowledgeable players would read a few pages of his posts and debunk some of his BS. (I’m ban on sight on that forum for promoting p2p poker, which doesn’t fall inline with PokerStars/2p2’s marketing agenda).
But there is one sentiment that I wish to back up a little and expand on, and for me is less of a sentiment and quite factual. The Dao security leak, that lead to the hacking should never have taken place, and was a product of irresponsibility on Vitalik’s part and any other leaders involved.
I think its too easy to shrug such an accusation off as well, and that such an attitude is truly a product of having to much power, which is also effectively a product of gaining to much wealth too fast.
I want to use the analogy of the Titanic for my reasoning here although I am not sure how valid it is in regard to factual history. Yet the metaphor will serve its purpose. Specifically I am referring to the lore that suggests that faulty rivets played a major role in the sinking of the Titanic (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/science/15titanic.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)
And this in tandem with a security LEAK that is embedded in what I must feel is a misconception about designing secure systems. I still do not know what the scientifically and academically accepted principles are in this regard, but to me the point I will make is simply fundamental reasoning in regard to security.
The Shapeshift hack that Erik Vorhees claims doesn’t count as a security breach is relevant here, and there was a poster on reddit that claimed to be his head of security that gave what I think is a fatal misunderstanding of what a security solution is. Erik seems to follow these sentiments as well and I cannot help but feel this is the basis for the IN-security that lead to the failure in the design of Shape-shift.
I write this in case I misunderstand Vitalik and ethereum and the Dao, but alas, for all I have read and understand (which I don’t claim to necessarily be all that much) on the subject, I have to feel that Vitalik at best made a massive oversight on his own understanding of security (whereas Voorhees just seems clueless in this regard).
The sentiment I am referring to is that security is about probability. That is to say there are apparently some security experts out there that feel that security is about mitigation and management, so that a certain fault or possible point of failure should be “solved” down to a low probability threshold. The idea would be the security expert saying “well its really unlikely someone would do that”, or “its really unlikely someone would figure that out” etc.
I myself would fire such an “expert” immediately and never trust them after they claimed to be so. This is not security and this is not what Satoshi did in regard to creating the world’s most secure system.
Probability is certainly a factor, but mitigation and management I dare say are not,. They are certainly not an ends or a solution for security.
Security rather is about changing the paradigm of the solution so that the system, or a modulated component of it, is EFFECTIVELY secure. There is no blanket way to implement this, but it CAN be well understood.
We turn to the Titanic as our example of what is mitigated and managed risk, in regard to the rivets that are allegedly one of the significant points of failure in the system (ship) that ultimately caused its demise.
You can’t really claim the ship is secure vs sinking when, for example, the entire ship’s buoyancy rests on the integrity of a single rivet provider. Now I won’t exactly provide a solution here, but we might consider different forms of stringent tests of the rivets over time, however we also might consider different otherwise reputable rivet manufacturers that could each compete to provide quality rivets (we can note you wouldn’t have rivet provider A do the bow of the ship vs provider B doing the stern as this would in itself be another leak. Rather we might interchange A rivets with B rivets in offsetting patterns throughout the entire ship etc.).
This is a pretty crucial point I think to make in regard to the “Titanic”, and something I guess I’m finding out that a lot of security experts don’t seem to understand.
There is a suggestion here, and I can’t really explain it well enough in this article, that security is not a static solution, but rather it must be a philosophy that is continuously spread and adopted through out an entire system or design solution. This seems to put a sort of time vector on real security solutions that I won’t go into further here.
Furthermore and in conjunction with the rivet example we need to understand that we can EFFECTIVELY solve security issues by not necessarily solving a problem in the given paradigm.
For example we might have a safe in which we cannot stop a thief from locating and attempt to “pick”. Perhaps we do not have a lock that is secure enough to stop this thief from opening. We might though have access to another safe, twice the size, yet with the same lock. A possible solution, or partial solution, could be to put the first safe INSIDE the second. We can note that eventually, basically after twice the time (the thief must pick both locks now) the thief WILL in fact get to the bounty.
But now we have altered the solution and the problem slightly, because the thief can now be put on a time constraint. That is to say if we can change the external factors so that the thief MUST crack the locks for the bounty in a certain time period, then we can keep adding more safes so that the thief can’t crack the multiple safe security solution before the time period expires.
This provides an EFFECTIVE solution.
Another simple solution would be, if the thief needs to expend a certain amount of economic power in order to crack the security of a system. Then, if the magnitude of economic power that is needed EXCEEDS the bounty the thief is going after, you have another effective solution. (see bitcoin for an implementation of this)
These are the ways you begin to provide TRUE security solutions that are ultimately useful and effective.
I don’t see this with the Dao and in fact imo this is where the Dao failed. I also even go so far as to suggest that Vitalik knows this all too well and even better than me. But I cannot understand why the value in the Dao was not compartmentalized, with time-constrained locks, and with a security system that disincentivizes breaching it.
I admit, and this is probably obvious from my complaint here, I don’t really understand the dao, but surely there is no reason to have so much equity in the same basket breachable by a single entity/group (iceberg!).
To me this is why there were accusations of it being an inside job and for all I could care/see I might suggest that someone or some party, somewhat from the inside, DID indeed set up the job before hand.
Cliffs: The CIA sunk the Titanic.
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NEM :: Descendant of Nxt - NEM - New Economy Movement

There is a new upcoming cryptocurrency called NEM
The author claims that this coin will have Completely Fair Distribution - Equal Shares for ALL
Link to main thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.0
NEM is likely to be a fork of Nxt code. I love NXT and I admire the brilliance and vision of NXT inventor BCNext. His idea of a decentralized world is beautiful and in that world we should have more forks of his work such as NEM.
NEM as a fork of NXT could have following features
NEM 100% Proof-of-Stake (PoS) currency. Coins are earned solely by charging transaction fees. Unlike other currencies with PoS mining, NEM's PoS mining does not cause monetary inflation. The total amount of NEM in circulation is 4 billion. NEM is resistant to +90% attacks via its transparent mining algorithm.
NEM improves different features of Bitcoin, removes some disadvantages (e.g. bloated blockchain) and resolves a big environmental issue. Time between blocks is one minute. This increases the rate of orphaned blocks, but makes it more convenient for the users.
NEM doesn’t use so-called “scripts” aka predicates. This simplifies and accelerates transaction processing. Advanced features like multisig will be created on top of the core as 3rd party services.
NEM is routable through Tor and I2P anonymous networks.
Some improvement over NXT could be possible:
Block Chain stored in database
Secure Wallet
Bitcoin like Addresses
Multi Precision arithmetic
NEM as a fork of NXT could have following features
How to join after page 50 (in main thread on Bitcointalk.org). Two ways
  1. Pay a fee to join in
    Send 80 NXT to the address 14343293611098709683 Send 0.008 BTC to the address 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ
    After you send the fee, include the transaction hash in your reply post in this thread, then you have reserved a stake spot. Donation is welcome but not necessary
  2. Show support to NEM to join in still the same as we need some more marketing effort.
The fee to join in will double after 10 pages in this thread. So the fee will double after page 60 to 160 NXT and 0.016 BTC.
When the fee exceeds 100 NXT or 0.01 BTC, the fee will move up on a linear scale instead.
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What collusion REALLY is and so what its solution REALLY is

Below is an explanation to the players about collusion in regards to decentralized poker, just curious if it strikes a chord with anyone for the reasons explained:
Decentralized poker is an amazing technological advance that the players of today poker game are faced with having to witness and accept. With it comes much needed understanding lest we let irrational thoughts and fear get the better of us. Collusion seems to be one of those feared aspects that players seem to want to form an opinion on based on irrationality and fear. I mean to sort this out first by writing about what collusion means to these players, what it REALLY is, and how decentralized poker 'solves' it.
The Byzantine general problem that was 'recently' solved that lead the way for the creation of 'bitcoin' is something we have been trying hard to solve for a very long time and for very good reasons. The solution and implementation of it dramatically changed the world and every single technology and system we have and use within it. But the solution is very special. I like to explain it much like the letter Nash wrote the nsa in 1955 explaining his 'revelation' in cryptology.
The idea is much like creating locks for your treasure chest in which your lock picking villain is going to start picking. This villain can pick ANY lock, however it takes a certain amount of time. We can create locks on locks, and so cause the time for villain to pick the treasure open to be longer, however we cannot create a lock so good that villain can't pick it. What can be done? Well if we happen to want to protect our treasure we just need enough lock power to keep villain out for the given amount of time needed (perhaps a lifetime?).
And so we solve the 'problem' perfectly, however we don't actually create an unpickable lock! This is much like the solution to the two generals problem that 'satoshi' proposed. And this is how the players are able to solve collusion!
To understand the solution we must understand what collusion is. Collusion to the average player, especially in terms of decentralized poker, is that very scary thing that happens when you let everyone run rampant with no 3rd party to regulate such cheating. Collusion to these players take all of the fun money from the game and it goes to the mass cheaters that would arise from such an environment. SOME of this is true, but lets get a little more rational and REALLY look at what collusion is.
Its true that cheaters do take our money, unfairly. But we must start to ask how much? And in doing so we can start to see that collusion is really just a 'cost' to the fair play players. What is important about this is that an over raked game can actually be worse for 'fairness' than an overcolluded game. So when dealing with the cost of collusion its important to understand, to value centralized poker over decentralized poker because of collusion, is really a matter of weighing the overall net profitability of the game. And let the author tell you, the overraked cost of centralized poker will NEVER allow decentralized collusion create a less profitable game. Unraked poker will ALWAYS be more profitable than raked poker REGARDLESS of collusion.
A certain post of an email from poker stars shows how they view and 'combat' collusion. The first thing to point out is that everything poker stars does the players can do for their own decentralized game. Another thing to note is that for poker stars collusion is not necessarily something they try to eliminate, but rather is something they MANAGE. And what exactly are they managing? Are they managing the costs? Or are they managing the players and their fears and complaints on it? These are completely different approaches. Sites true intent is to keep their customers, and if they can do that without eliminating collusion then they won't even need to. So in this light its quite interesting to me to hear players suggested that a 3rd party model is safer than a decentralized one.
We can see this 'management' process in the 'official PS mttsng suggestion thread' in which players shout out complaints and wants about the game and poker stars reps simply respond with seemingly random changes to the game. None of the players are ever happy, and they never get 'heard', however since its a certain outlet for this discussion, nobody is really the wiser to the fact that its really just a management technique. To me the setup for that thread (and every poker section has its own version) is itself a form of collusion between PS and the forum that sets up the (bad/rigged) process for discussion. Especially since recently an idea/solution has been proposed that would give the players more bargaining power for the changes they really want (and the discussion explaining the solution was shortly thereafter deleted).
We also have incidences of players rooms being hacked at live poker stars tournaments and events. In one such discussion the poker stars rep assured the players they had called the police and are working with the hotel to 'solve' such matters. Not long after the same person admitted that the cops weren't actually called yet, but not to worry because its being handled. I can't find the thread at the moment but I honestly think I remember that it happened a 3rd time, in which the same stars rep said they didn't call the police the 2nd time either! This is simply because they are NOT trying to solve the case, but rather manage the embarrassment and image of both the company and the hotel. The hotel no doubt was doing the same image managing. For them it was really a process of damage control, and the best way to do it is to stall. THIS is collusion!!! And the forum format with which they use to address the players adds to the mess and the unfairness of the whole process.
When we think about centralized and decentralized models, sometimes its helpful to trace the money to understand the economy of it. On today's private yet public forum it might be interesting to note that poker stars pays ad revenue in order to place ad banners on the site. The players are not privy to such information, but it might be quite interesting to understand the deals that are going on behind the curtains. It might be interesting to see for example where the money really comes from for certain forum events and promotions, and whether or not its really a sponsored by Stars event (whether openly or not).
Black friday might be a related topic as well, since the US government effectively shut down the coke and pepsi of poker, one which was owned by the players and one which was owned by a company on the isle of man. When poker came back the US 'forced' Coke to buy Pepsi, Stars to buy full tilt and thus simultaneously created a monopoly while plugging a giant economic leak for the States (remember money leaving the country for nothing is a huge leak!). This caused the game to get harder, and eventually lead to an obvious dramatic increase in effective rake. THAT is collusion.
Since then the players have been wanting to discuss decentralized poker on the biggest poker forum they all meet on. Its been quite difficult over the years as its been a taboo subject for mods and some players. We have also been showing that small tweaks to the forum can prove to be massively +ev for the community, but to no avail.
One such poster has been repeatedly banned for bringing such obvious unfairness and unfavourableness to the attention of the players, mods, and owners.
THAT is collusion.
So the REAL solution to the REAL collusion is really actually the decentralization of the game, that will cause the players to ACTUALLY start managing the cost of it, and by simply starting the project we will begin to work together to implement all of the tangible solutions we ALREADY have to keep it to an acceptable level. In the future we expect collusion to be a thing of the past, however for now, collusion isn't something whatsoever that is lacking a needed solution for the decentralization of the game.
Rather the truth of the matter is, poker badly NEEDS decentralization in order to put an end to the rampant collusion in today's economy of it.
(can't find one link but ill get to it eventually)
http://www.maisev.com/forum/novidades-e-opinioes/28462-pokerstars-support-collusion-review-complete.html
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/198/mttsng/official-pokerstars-mttsng-suggestion-thread-1166623/
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Any bitcoin poker players interested in a carbon poker for bitcoin/sealswithclubs trade?

I am trying to sell/trade my carbon poker money. I have $350 that i am trying to get rid of and i am asking for a $315 BOA transfedeposit or the equivalent in bitcoins. I have made numerous trades on two plus two in the player to player transfer thread. You can check me out in there. My screen name on carbon is jcklem, my screen name on twoplustwo is ieatturds. If anyone is interested in this let me know.
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